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15 years 1 month ago #4191
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Hello, I trying to inspect the forces and stress on a bolt pattern and its threads. I have a round plate with a circular bolt pattern and a round cylindrical body with a threaded hole pattern on it. I assume since i'm calculating the forces on the bolts that i can start without any pre-load on the bolts.
I noticed that the arbor press example does not model threads and instead uses blank flat un-threaded cylindrical bolt shanks affixed to the inside of their holes with a
LIAISON_MAIL=(_F(GROUP_MA_MAIT='Volume',GROUP_MA_ESCL='Face',),
boundary condition.
how good of approximation for a threaded hole is this?
Does this model accurately model thread failure or will the bulk wall material fail long after the threads would have failed?
Is there a better method for modeling bolt pullout/ thread failure in code aster?
should i just be circumventing this by ensuring that my minimum thread engagement will cause each bolt to fail before the threads do?
thankyou
I noticed that the arbor press example does not model threads and instead uses blank flat un-threaded cylindrical bolt shanks affixed to the inside of their holes with a
LIAISON_MAIL=(_F(GROUP_MA_MAIT='Volume',GROUP_MA_ESCL='Face',),
boundary condition.
how good of approximation for a threaded hole is this?
Does this model accurately model thread failure or will the bulk wall material fail long after the threads would have failed?
Is there a better method for modeling bolt pullout/ thread failure in code aster?
should i just be circumventing this by ensuring that my minimum thread engagement will cause each bolt to fail before the threads do?
thankyou
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15 years 1 month ago #4194
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Code_Aster release : STA11.4 on OpenSUSE 12.3 64 bits - EDF/Intel version
Replied by Claus on topic Re:modeling bolts
I think you're better off doing an analytical analysis of the problem rather than trying to model the problem in CA.
Simulating a thread-failure would require a fine dense mesh and the simulation would require a contact formulation with plasticity. All in all a rather daunting task for something that has well established analytical solutions.
Try searching for 'thread stripping' or 'thread failure' at the friendly folks of google.
Dear God - someone has even done all the math for you here!
www.tribology-abc.com/calculators/e3_6e.htm
www.tribology-abc.com/calculators/e3_6f.htm
Possibly not the answer you're looking for, but I wouldn't personally bother trying to model thread stripping in CA
"should i just be circumventing this by ensuring that my minimum thread engagement will cause each bolt to fail before the threads do?"
Yes
Regards,
Claus<br /><br />Post edited by: Claus, at: 2010/05/06 02:07
Simulating a thread-failure would require a fine dense mesh and the simulation would require a contact formulation with plasticity. All in all a rather daunting task for something that has well established analytical solutions.
Try searching for 'thread stripping' or 'thread failure' at the friendly folks of google.
Dear God - someone has even done all the math for you here!

www.tribology-abc.com/calculators/e3_6e.htm
www.tribology-abc.com/calculators/e3_6f.htm
Possibly not the answer you're looking for, but I wouldn't personally bother trying to model thread stripping in CA

"should i just be circumventing this by ensuring that my minimum thread engagement will cause each bolt to fail before the threads do?"
Yes

Regards,
Claus<br /><br />Post edited by: Claus, at: 2010/05/06 02:07
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