thermal analysis with radiation problem
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14 years 11 months ago #4434
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I've just sent you an email.
Thank you for spending some time looking at this for me.
Joe
Thank you for spending some time looking at this for me.
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Duplicated post deleted.<br /><br />Post edited by: Joe Dowsett, at: 2010/07/16 15:07
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14 years 11 months ago #4436
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I don't see what is the problem, everything works fine. May be You make confusion between a stationary and a transient thermal analysis?
I add - for use of all Forum visitors - a simplified mesh (same geometry, but only 2 HEX8-elm), a .comm for stationary and a .comm for transient analysis. The (also added) output-files .mess, .resu are for the stationary case. Min- and Max-Temp are 30.1888°C at the radiating face and 30.2054°C at the heat-loaded face.
In the transient .comm-file I applied Your initial-temperature of 39.809°C. The analysis calculates only the first 6 seconds of the transient behaviour. This time range is very short, that's why after these 6 sec You don't get the equilibrium solution. I didn't do an analytical calculation, but the temperatures seem plausible.
I hope, I helped You. Best regards,
Johannes Ackva
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I add - for use of all Forum visitors - a simplified mesh (same geometry, but only 2 HEX8-elm), a .comm for stationary and a .comm for transient analysis. The (also added) output-files .mess, .resu are for the stationary case. Min- and Max-Temp are 30.1888°C at the radiating face and 30.2054°C at the heat-loaded face.
In the transient .comm-file I applied Your initial-temperature of 39.809°C. The analysis calculates only the first 6 seconds of the transient behaviour. This time range is very short, that's why after these 6 sec You don't get the equilibrium solution. I didn't do an analytical calculation, but the temperatures seem plausible.
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I hope, I helped You. Best regards,
Johannes Ackva
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14 years 11 months ago #4437
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Thank you!
I'm quite confused as to why the my transient comm didn't work, the only difference I can see is in the result part.
But yes, a stationary analysis was what I wanted. Early on I got an error telling me to look at the increment so I investigated that rather than realising I needed to add the Stationaire command.
Thank you very much for your help, it is very much appreciated.
Joe
I'm quite confused as to why the my transient comm didn't work, the only difference I can see is in the result part.
But yes, a stationary analysis was what I wanted. Early on I got an error telling me to look at the increment so I investigated that rather than realising I needed to add the Stationaire command.
Thank you very much for your help, it is very much appreciated.
Joe
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14 years 11 months ago #4438
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Well, it seems I wasn't being entirely stupid.
I've now configured my actual model, fixed flux in, then two different exchange surfaces and also radiation. I can't see why there shouldn't be a stationary state for almost any possible choice of coefficients.
However I'm finding that it's temperamental with regards to a transfer coeff (which I don't actually know the value of hence want to analyse a range).
Likewise the transient one is throwing errors.
Anyway, thanks again, at least I've got some results to work from and can hope fully now better understand what's going on.
I've now configured my actual model, fixed flux in, then two different exchange surfaces and also radiation. I can't see why there shouldn't be a stationary state for almost any possible choice of coefficients.
However I'm finding that it's temperamental with regards to a transfer coeff (which I don't actually know the value of hence want to analyse a range).
Likewise the transient one is throwing errors.
Anyway, thanks again, at least I've got some results to work from and can hope fully now better understand what's going on.
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