Getting started with static thermal simulation
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						13 years 11 months ago				#5855
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				Hi there
I'm pretty new to FEA and CAElinux, but well versed in 2d and 3d CAD. I work in the construction industry and want to find a good way to do a simple comparison of the thermal properties between several options for a construction around a window.
I'm a bit stuck on how to get started. Does anyone have a suggestion for the way forward, I've had trouble getting going with Salome and are a bit unsure what format I need to import into something to do the analysis.
Any help would be appreciated.
Cheers, Duncan
					I'm pretty new to FEA and CAElinux, but well versed in 2d and 3d CAD. I work in the construction industry and want to find a good way to do a simple comparison of the thermal properties between several options for a construction around a window.
I'm a bit stuck on how to get started. Does anyone have a suggestion for the way forward, I've had trouble getting going with Salome and are a bit unsure what format I need to import into something to do the analysis.
Any help would be appreciated.
Cheers, Duncan
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						13 years 11 months ago				#5858
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				Replied by johannes ackva on topic Re:Getting started with static thermal simulation			
			
				Duncan,
a way to start: I would reccomand You to use the search function of this forum, searching for "thermal". There are lots of examples, for example:
caelinux.com/CMS/index.php?option=com_jo...&catid=5#msg3659
Of course not everything is ready to run, but You can learn a lot. And then ask more in detail referred to an example.
Good success, regards,
Johannes Ackva
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					a way to start: I would reccomand You to use the search function of this forum, searching for "thermal". There are lots of examples, for example:
caelinux.com/CMS/index.php?option=com_jo...&catid=5#msg3659
Of course not everything is ready to run, but You can learn a lot. And then ask more in detail referred to an example.
Good success, regards,
Johannes Ackva
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						13 years 11 months ago				#5861
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				Replied by Steven on topic Re:Getting started with static thermal simulation			
			
				I'm a little bit in your same boat, but I've been working on CFD problems instead of thermal.  I've been having alot of luck with drawing my geometries in the CAD package I'm most familiar with (SolidWorks) and saving as a STEP file to import into Salome.  The only trouble I've had with that is that sometimes SolidWorks will go back and forth on the case of the letters in the file extension while Linux is definitely case sensitive.`			
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						13 years 11 months ago				#5862
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				Replied by Duncan Lithgow on topic Re:Getting started with static thermal simulation			
			
				Hi. I'm not a user of Solid Works but I know a bit about file system file naming compatibility. Try and have a mixture of upper and lower case characters in the file name. That usually is enough for the windows file system to stop switching their case (assuming you haven't already tried this and you're taking file from a windows environment to a *nix environment).
Otherwise I suggest you find or start a thread specific to this problem. You're probably not the first.
					Otherwise I suggest you find or start a thread specific to this problem. You're probably not the first.
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						13 years 11 months ago				#5863
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				Replied by johannes ackva on topic Re:Getting started with static thermal simulation			
			
				Hi Duncan,
I found this on a forum for a transient thermal analysis with a 3D-model. I hope it is useful,
Johannes Ackva
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DEBUT();
TIME=DEFI_LIST_REEL(DEBUT=0.0,
INTERVALLE=(_F(JUSQU_A=0.0001,
PAS=2e-05,),
_F(JUSQU_A=0.001,
PAS=0.0001,),
_F(JUSQU_A=0.01,
PAS=0.001,),
_F(JUSQU_A=0.1,
PAS=0.01,),
_F(JUSQU_A=1.0,
PAS=0.1,),
_F(JUSQU_A=10.0,
PAS=1.0,),),);
MESH=LIRE_MAILLAGE(UNITE=20,
FORMAT='MED',);
MAT1=DEFI_MATERIAU(THER=_F(LAMBDA=134.0,
RHO_CP=1600000.0,),);
MODEL=AFFE_MODELE(MAILLAGE=MESH,
AFFE=_F(TOUT='OUI',
PHENOMENE='THERMIQUE',
MODELISATION='3D',),);
MATFIELD=AFFE_MATERIAU(MAILLAGE=MESH,
AFFE=_F(TOUT='OUI',
MATER=MAT1,),);
LOADING=AFFE_CHAR_THER(MODELE=MODEL,
FLUX_REP=_F(GROUP_MA='Sup2',
FLUN=419304.0,),
ECHANGE=_F(GROUP_MA='Inf1',
COEF_H=1000.0,
TEMP_EXT=0.0,),);
TEMP=THER_LINEAIRE(MODELE=MODEL,
CHAM_MATER=MATFIELD,
EXCIT=_F(CHARGE=LOADING,),
INCREMENT=_F(LIST_INST=TIME,),
ETAT_INIT=_F(VALE=0.0,),);
IMPR_RESU(FORMAT='MED',
RESU=_F(RESULTAT=TEMP,),);
FIN();
					I found this on a forum for a transient thermal analysis with a 3D-model. I hope it is useful,
Johannes Ackva
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DEBUT();
TIME=DEFI_LIST_REEL(DEBUT=0.0,
INTERVALLE=(_F(JUSQU_A=0.0001,
PAS=2e-05,),
_F(JUSQU_A=0.001,
PAS=0.0001,),
_F(JUSQU_A=0.01,
PAS=0.001,),
_F(JUSQU_A=0.1,
PAS=0.01,),
_F(JUSQU_A=1.0,
PAS=0.1,),
_F(JUSQU_A=10.0,
PAS=1.0,),),);
MESH=LIRE_MAILLAGE(UNITE=20,
FORMAT='MED',);
MAT1=DEFI_MATERIAU(THER=_F(LAMBDA=134.0,
RHO_CP=1600000.0,),);
MODEL=AFFE_MODELE(MAILLAGE=MESH,
AFFE=_F(TOUT='OUI',
PHENOMENE='THERMIQUE',
MODELISATION='3D',),);
MATFIELD=AFFE_MATERIAU(MAILLAGE=MESH,
AFFE=_F(TOUT='OUI',
MATER=MAT1,),);
LOADING=AFFE_CHAR_THER(MODELE=MODEL,
FLUX_REP=_F(GROUP_MA='Sup2',
FLUN=419304.0,),
ECHANGE=_F(GROUP_MA='Inf1',
COEF_H=1000.0,
TEMP_EXT=0.0,),);
TEMP=THER_LINEAIRE(MODELE=MODEL,
CHAM_MATER=MATFIELD,
EXCIT=_F(CHARGE=LOADING,),
INCREMENT=_F(LIST_INST=TIME,),
ETAT_INIT=_F(VALE=0.0,),);
IMPR_RESU(FORMAT='MED',
RESU=_F(RESULTAT=TEMP,),);
FIN();
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						13 years 11 months ago				#5864
		by Duncan Lithgow
	
	
		
			
	
															
	
				Replied by Duncan Lithgow on topic Re:Getting started with static thermal simulation			
			
				Hi ackva
I assume that's some code for importing a model and handling the post processing. I freely admit that I'm looking for a GUI for this simulation - it's not feasible for me to learn the syntax of some scripting language when there are commercial packages that can do the whole operation graphically. Sadly the Salome 3D CAD package isn't packaged for Ubuntu 11.10 so I haven't even solved the first step which is making the model in the right format... I'll have to look into compiling Salome for my machine.
Thanks for the help though.
					I assume that's some code for importing a model and handling the post processing. I freely admit that I'm looking for a GUI for this simulation - it's not feasible for me to learn the syntax of some scripting language when there are commercial packages that can do the whole operation graphically. Sadly the Salome 3D CAD package isn't packaged for Ubuntu 11.10 so I haven't even solved the first step which is making the model in the right format... I'll have to look into compiling Salome for my machine.
Thanks for the help though.
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