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9 years 2 months ago - 9 years 1 month ago #8438
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[SOLVED] Mesh dependency in Modal Analysis was created by men
Hey everyone,
I came across another Issue today. I tried to run a modal analysis and got unrealistic results. I am using Code_Aster version 12.4 and working on a volumetric model. The code uses the command ASSEMBLAGE to build the Stiffness and Mass matrices and the command CALC_MODES to calculate the Eigen-frequencies. I thought that my BC were not well defined in a first place. Then I found out this morning by building a volumetric model of the first example of the document V2.08.011 that I have a dependency of the results on the mesh-size. This sounds reasonable, however the differences were huge, up to double of the reference value. The code as well as my mesh refinement study are attached. I am really wondering if I use the code in an inappropriate manner? Is there anyone who came across similar problems or could help me out with this?
Thanks a lot
Menb
I came across another Issue today. I tried to run a modal analysis and got unrealistic results. I am using Code_Aster version 12.4 and working on a volumetric model. The code uses the command ASSEMBLAGE to build the Stiffness and Mass matrices and the command CALC_MODES to calculate the Eigen-frequencies. I thought that my BC were not well defined in a first place. Then I found out this morning by building a volumetric model of the first example of the document V2.08.011 that I have a dependency of the results on the mesh-size. This sounds reasonable, however the differences were huge, up to double of the reference value. The code as well as my mesh refinement study are attached. I am really wondering if I use the code in an inappropriate manner? Is there anyone who came across similar problems or could help me out with this?
Thanks a lot
Menb
#---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
# Author: menb
# Date: 18.11.15
#
# UNITS: MASS LENTH TIME FORCE STRESS ENERGY
# ton mm s N MPa N-mm
#---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
DEBUT(LANG='en',);
#---------------------------------------------------
# MESH
#---------------------------------------------------
mesh=LIRE_MAILLAGE( FORMAT='MED', # read in string
UNITE=21,
INFO=1,);
#---------------------------------------------------
# MODEL
#---------------------------------------------------
model1=AFFE_MODELE(MAILLAGE=mesh, # define the model
AFFE=_F(TOUT='OUI',
PHENOMENE='MECANIQUE',
MODELISATION='3D',),);
#---------------------------------------------------
# LOAD AND BC
#---------------------------------------------------
BC=AFFE_CHAR_MECA(MODELE=model1,
DDL_IMPO=(_F(GROUP_MA=('fix',),
DX=0.0,
DY=0.0,
DZ=0.0,),),);
CuBe2A=DEFI_MATERIAU(ELAS=_F(E=210000.0,
NU=0.3,
RHO=7.8e-09,
ALPHA=0.01,),);
matfield=AFFE_MATERIAU(MAILLAGE=mesh,
AFFE=_F(TOUT='OUI',
MATER=CuBe2A,),
);
ASSEMBLAGE(MODELE=model1,
CHAM_MATER=matfield,
CHARGE=BC,
NUME_DDL=CO('NUM'),
MATR_ASSE=(_F(MATRICE=CO('Stiffn'),
OPTION='RIGI_MECA',),
_F(MATRICE=CO('Mass'),
OPTION='MASS_MECA',),
_F(MATRICE=CO('Damping'),
OPTION='AMOR_MECA',),),);
#---------------------------------------------------
# MODAL SOLVER
#---------------------------------------------------
reig0000=CALC_MODES(OPTION='BANDE',
SOLVEUR_MODAL=_F(METHODE='SORENSEN',),
MATR_RIGI=Stiffn,
MATR_MASS=Mass,
CALC_FREQ=_F(FREQ=(0.0,30000.0,),),
VERI_MODE=_F(STOP_ERREUR='NON',),
AMELIORATION='NON',);
IMPR_RESU(FORMAT='MED',
UNITE=80,
RESU=_F(RESULTAT=reig0000,),);
FIN();
Mesh Refinment Study | |
# Vol. Elem | 1, Mode [Hz] |
107500 | 168.4 |
16100 | 171.6 |
2871 | 182.3 |
631 | 205.1 |
120 | 296.9 |
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9 years 2 months ago #8440
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Replied by men on topic Re: Mesh dependency in Modal Analysis
Hi there,
I came across the solution to my problem and found that I was using a linear mesh which caused the unprecise results. When the mesh was changed to quadratic elements, the solver CALC_MODES worked just fine. I was not aware that a linear mesh would have such a big influence on the results. I hope this may be helpful for others.
Cheers
Menb
I came across the solution to my problem and found that I was using a linear mesh which caused the unprecise results. When the mesh was changed to quadratic elements, the solver CALC_MODES worked just fine. I was not aware that a linear mesh would have such a big influence on the results. I hope this may be helpful for others.
Cheers
Menb
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9 years 1 month ago #8441
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Replied by kwou on topic Re: Mesh dependency in Modal Analysis
hoi menb
the solver probably also works just fine with linear meshes; but the linear mesh behaves stiffer indeed.
You can have a look here:
caelinux.org/wiki/index.php/Contrib:KeesWouters/staticshell
the solver probably also works just fine with linear meshes; but the linear mesh behaves stiffer indeed.
You can have a look here:
caelinux.org/wiki/index.php/Contrib:KeesWouters/staticshell
Interest: structural mechanics, solar energy (picture at 'my location' shows too little pv panels)
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9 years 1 month ago #8446
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Replied by men on topic Re: Mesh dependency in Modal Analysis
Hey keeswouters,
Thanks for that link, I think that the grid-refinment study for the different mesh types is quite useful to get a feeling about the accuracy a certain mesh sould achive. It describes exactly the problem I faced..
Thanks for that link, I think that the grid-refinment study for the different mesh types is quite useful to get a feeling about the accuracy a certain mesh sould achive. It describes exactly the problem I faced..
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